Isn't it funny how people who rail about "smug atheists" and accuse others of being idiots, dishonest and dumb usually turn out to be the ones who embody those traits more than anyone else?
Holly: why bother posting a fucking free speech comments policy if you're not only going to censor ones you don't like and change the policy to allow you remove anything you don't like? Real life threats and spam are the only conditions that are ever acceptable, anything more is you wanting to pretend you're pro free speech when actually your blog is there as a personal wank.
Well, you're not going to have your comments removed from my blog, and I think the fact that your airheaded, vacuous circle-jerk crap, along with many of the circle jerkers themselves, are going to stand here as a testament to what a total, two faced fuckhead you are.
For some reason, the fact that Holly herself told me she's Jewish and believes that there's an "intelligence behind the universe" seems relevant here; why is it that people who believe in this universal intelligence seem to think it's the type of thing that is impressed by two-faced, childish liars? Did it watch you calling me an idiot and changing your free speech policy because too many people were speaking freely and think "Yeah, that's the kind of woman I want championing my existence?"
No, because it doesn't exist, but as I'll undoubtedly blog about later; it's people who think they're on the same team as perfect, cosmic-scale intelligences who seem to have imperfect asshole-scale one between their ears.
Case.
In.
Point.
Another e-crime solved.
Oh, I also only commented on two posts. Damn my constant disruptions to her blog!
*I am not even sure it's worth noting that I was actually very pleasant whilst being called all manner of crappy things by this woman and the people on her blog.
There's nothing two-faced about this. She had a free speech policy. It failed to maintain the desired atmosphere of comfortable conversation. She revised the policy in an attempt to prevent further failures. In short, it has evolved. Will you?
ReplyDeleteYou weren't pleasant. Pretty sure you started the name calling with cunt. Plus I can't imagine your smugness makes people think you're nice to be around.
ReplyDeletehere's nothing two-faced about this. She had a free speech policy.
ReplyDeleteYes. There's nothing dishonest about a woman who removes comments disagreeing with her her saying this
"Fortunately, 99% of the comments (well, of the comments that got through screening) pretty much amount to "we love you Twisty no matter what, of course it's different when you use sexual slurs, we understand! besides, women who aren't with the program really are cunts! hugs!"
About Twisty Faster for removing comments that disagree with her.
Then reading this on her blog...
"If questions and discussion in a public forum are unsafe and unfriendly, then discourse is impossible. If you’re not looking for discourse, fine. But I’m just sayin’."
and saying this
Holly said..."This comment is just posted here for preservation before it gets deleted, I think it's awesome."
That's not being a two faced, hypocritical cunt at all is it?
You dumb. Fucking. Retard.
Of course, you can come on my blog and be a dumb retard. Although your dickless inability to disagree with women might allow you to argue that a woman who would ban you from her blog for arguing a viewpoint is in the right for having a free speech policy then removing it whilst having tens of posts lauding people for doing the same, it won't get your comments removed.
Nothing will get your comments removed. Because dissenting viewpoints are the lifeblood of my Dumb Planet, especially stupid ones like yours.
It would be hypocritical or two-faced for her to delete you while saying she has an unequivocal free speech policy. In order for her to be consistent, she would have to change that policy to allow for your comments' removal. That is what she did.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with women. I disagree with Holly often, because she's more sexually liberal than I am. But I see no need for rudeness.
"I disagree with women. I disagree with Holly often, because she's more sexually liberal than I am. But I see no need for rudeness. "
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry....wat?
You claimed I had an inability to disagree with women. I claim I do not (proof: any conversation in which my girlfriend suggests we watch Glee.) Modus tollens, bud.
ReplyDeleteYou claimed I had an inability to disagree with women. I claim I do not (proof: any conversation in which my girlfriend suggests we watch Glee.) Modus tollens, bud.
ReplyDeleteI want you to go to lost and found and ask them if anyone has turned in your penis.
It won't be in your girlfriend's handbag because she doesn't exist.
She wouldn't keep my penis in her handbag, that's unsanitary.
ReplyDeleteSure buddy.
ReplyDeleteWow. That's some irrefutable proof there that I changed my policy. You'd totally have me nailed except for the fact that I'm allowed to do that. I tried to have one policy but you demonstrated why it wasn't workable so I changed it. It wasn't like some sneaky underhanded thing.
ReplyDeleteHolly said..."Wow. That's some irrefutable proof there that I changed my policy. You'd totally have me nailed except for the fact that I'm allowed to do that. I tried "
ReplyDeleteRight and wrong.
You are allowed to do that but it makes you a total cunt, because you admonish Twisty Faster for doing the exact same thing, as evidenced in the original post.
That's why the post is called "Holly is a cunt" not "Holly has broken the rules". Cunt.
You know that's one of the worst words you can use about a woman, right? And you saying it doesn't actually give people reading this conversation any information about me, but it lets them know that you're the sort of person who uses that word pretty freely.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, the problem with you wasn't that you dissented--there's plenty of dissent in the comments on my blog--it's that you completely took over the conversation by insulting people and postpostpostpostposting in mass quantities. I tolerated this when you were still sort of making an argument relevant to the post, but when you stated doing it on a post unrelated to feminism, I became concerned that you were going to start doing this on every post going forward, which would really damage the value of my blog as a discussion space.
You know that's one of the worst words you can use about a woman, right? And you saying it doesn't actually give people reading this conversation any information about me
ReplyDeleteSorry, I didn't know you were so freaking important.
Anyway, the problem with you wasn't that you dissented--there's plenty of dissent in the comments on my blog
Nah there ain't
-it's that you completely took over the conversation by insulting people and postpostpostpostposting in mass quantities
You realize I only ever posted to reply right, as in people were talking to me?
tolerated this when you were still sort of making an argument relevant to the post, but when you stated doing it on a post unrelated to feminism, I became concerned that you were going to start doing this on every post going forward....
*cough* bullshit *cough* you were acting like a retard.
...which would really damage the value of my blog as a discussion space.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Holly said..."You know that's one of the worst words you can use about a woman, right? "
ReplyDeleteOh, and especially fuck you for saying it's worse for you to be called a cunt because you're a woman.
Some brand of equality you're touting there, you cunt.
Some brand of equality you're touting there, you cunt.
ReplyDeleteI notice you didn't call chathamh a cunt. Why not?
A) Because you didn't think of it. Your totally equal totally sexism-free brain associates the word "cunt" specifically with a woman who isn't pleasing you.
B) Because you knew it would hurt me more. "Cunt" is a word traditionally used in our society to abuse and intimidate women, so it has more power against them. A man is more likely to be able to laugh off that insult; a woman is more likely to carry around memories of being called a "cunt" in a truly vicious way or while being physically threatened or harmed.
In a totally equal society where everyone was a featureless gray box spawned immaculately on a featureless gray plane with no history and no culture, "cunt" would be equally hurtful to men and women, and used equally against both. We do not have that society.
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ReplyDeleteOf course it's worse, because when you call a woman a cunt it has context. It's kind of like if you were English, and I called you a chavvy fuck. It'd make a lot less sense for you to say the same to me.
ReplyDeleteI notice you didn't call chathamh a cunt. Why not?
ReplyDeleteBecause he's an idiot. He hasn't actually done anything immoral, weak or aggressive. You have. So you're a cunt.
Stop making it about being a woman.
Cunt.
Of course it's worse.
Um, no. I would experience the exact same emotions if you called me a "snownigger eskimo blubberchomper" and a "chavvy fuck". That's because adult human beings don't live in fear of swear words.
Idiot.
In a totally equal society where everyone was a featureless gray box spawned immaculately on a featureless gray plane with no history and no culture, "cunt" would be equally hurtful to men and women, and used equally against both. We do not have that society.
ReplyDeleteOr a society where people have learned not to live in terror of magic words. Oh wait, that would require maturity.
Why do you persist in using the same abusive insults if you feel that they all affect you equally? Surely you could be more creative.
ReplyDeleteStop making it about being a woman.
ReplyDeleteIt is literally a word for women's genitalia. There's some connection there.
Or a society where people have learned not to live in terror of magic words.
But it is a magic word! That is, it is a word with associations and connotations. Really nasty and extremely gender-specific ones.
Anyway, you wouldn't have used it if it wasn't a magic word to you. You used it with intention to insult me, so you can't exactly turn around and say "no, it's not really an insult." Saying "cunt" is obviously emotionally loaded for you as well as me.
It is literally a word for women's genitalia. There's some connection there.
ReplyDeleteSpastic means "cerebral palsey", and yet when people call one another a spaz it has nothing to do with suffering from cerebral palsey. Oh wow what a failpoint you had there.
You spasticated cunt.
But it is a magic word! That is, it is a word with associations and connotations. Really nasty and extremely gender-specific ones.
OH NO NASTY WORDS. Fuck yourself, cunthead.
Anyway, you wouldn't have used it if it wasn't a magic word to you.
Of course I would. If I have the maturity to get over dirty words but you are still stuck on "OMG I NEED TO CONTROL THE ENTIRE WORLD'S SPEECH PATTERNS" I'm going to use it against you, because you're a fucking twat.
And in my books being an arrogant, bullying, anti-intellectual comment censoring fuckwad who enjoys the freedom to debate on my blog whilst blocking me from your own makes you the a cunt. It just rolls off the tongue when describing someone like that doesn't it? Cunt. You are a dirty, ignorant cunt.
The next time someone touting free speech tries to bully me off a blog whilst I argue my point, changes their comments policy to exclude only a single dissenter and acts like a total fucking cunt then they can join you in the circle of cuntitude.
"Smug atheists" alone is enough to make you a cunt. If there was a worse word to hand I'd use it, and you could piss yourself about that.
Ashur, I was going to disagree, but when you called her a twat I was immediately convinced that you're right. I only wish I could be so persuasive.
ReplyDeleteI do have some questions. How is it bullying to make you leave her blog? Clearly, her revised policy shows that that she was expecting free, relevant speech. Your posts were not relevant to the discussion, and your dogged combativeness is not in keeping with the blog's aesthetic. It's no different than asking you to leave my house because you're making a scene. By causing a scene, you gave up your privilege to free speech.
And she doesn't want to control the entire world (I think?) Just her blog.
chathamh said..."By causing a scene, you gave up your privilege to free speech."
ReplyDeleteYou're an idiot.
Why am I an idiot?
ReplyDeleteWhy am I an idiot?
ReplyDeletePossibly the only question in existence for which the answer cannot, by definition, be understood by the asker.
One, that's only the case if your accusation is true. Two, you haven't answered my question.
ReplyDeleteOne, that's only the case if your accusation is true. Two, you haven't answered my question.
ReplyDeleteAnd you'll never be able to make me. Idiot.
One, that's only the case if your accusation is true. Two, you haven't answered my question.
ReplyDeleteThree; semicolons.
What? The only way I would use a semicolon in that post is if I said, "One, that's only the case if your accusation is true; two, you haven't answered my question," as that would be using the semicolon to separate items in a list. Now, I could have said this: "One: that's only the case if your accusation is true. Two: you haven't answered my question." However, I find that colons make sentence flow too choppy and stilted. In either case, I have never seen such a use of semicolons as yours in any of my grammatical resources.
ReplyDeleteAnd I don't mind if you don't answer my question, I just wanted to know your reasoning (just in case such a base intelligence as my own could ever hope to comprehend such profound cogitations.)
What? The only way I would use a semicolon in that post is if I said, "One, that's only the case if your accusation is true; two, you haven't answered my question,"
ReplyDeleteYou'd be using it wrong then, idiot.
However, I find that colons make sentence flow too choppy and stilted.
No you don't. You misuse them because your brain didn't naturally pick up the pattern of their use.
And I don't mind if you don't answer my question, I just wanted to know your reasoning (just in case such a base intelligence as my own could ever hope to comprehend such profound cogitations.)
It couldn't. A good litmus test for your brainpower; if you think the bible is a serious proposition you're not quite ready to take your crash helmet off.
You'd be using it wrong then, idiot.
ReplyDeleteThere should be a comma before "then."
No you don't. You misuse them because your brain didn't naturally pick up the pattern of their use.
There should be a comma between "No" and "you."
It couldn't. A good litmus test for your brainpower; if you think the bible is a serious proposition you're not quite ready to take your crash helmet off.
"A good litmus test for your brainpower" is not an independent clause, as it has no verb. Therefore, you cannot separate it with a semicolon. A colon would have been correct. It's also generally accepted that the Bible, as a proper noun, should be capitalized to differentiate it from the common noun "bible", as in this usage: "I am never without my personal bible, Montesquieu's Persian Letters."
Please, do not make me continue in this persona of the "tedious grammarian." It suits me not.
Finally, I do not consider the Bible as a whole a serious proposition. It is full of contradictions, and makes an unreasonable claim of truth that it cannot hope to defend. I cannot say that it was written, compiled, or offered to the masses in good faith. I can say that it contains a great many precepts that are wise and insightful, and a great many that are not. In this, it is no different from most scriptures. I prize it for those parts that are good; I discard the carcass.
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ReplyDeleteGetting banned from some sex blog is a CRIME, you guys. A motherfucking SERIOUS crime too.
An "e-crime".
But thanks to Zeus, Jesus, Allah and Google, it is a CRIME that has been SOLVED by our hero here!!!
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This is so sad it's hilarious. Plz do keep the flame war alive, I needed the laughs thx. :D
Love how you spam "cunt" over and over. It makes you look so silly it's almost kinda cute.
lol internet tough guy lol
"Evidence on The Pervocracy Case"
ReplyDeleteA fucking case, man! Goddamn you're such a badass, you agressive little person you.
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ReplyDeleteMr. Ashur I believe it is you who are the butthurt.
ReplyDelete"You spasticated cunt"? Jesus, how old are you Ashur, twelve?
ReplyDeleteMmm... yeah... I've taken a look over your blog, and I'm going to have to confiscate your atheist creds. It's those constantly angry "Nearly everyone who isn't me is so stupid it's a wonder they can even tie their shoes" type of people who end up doing far more damage to the reputation of their group or philosophy than any enemy ever could.
ReplyDeleteTo Holly: "Sorry, I didn't know you were so freaking important."
ReplyDeleteThen why are you devoting so many posts to her? All your regular readers must be getting sick of it by now. Maybe that's why they're not commenting.
"Three; semicolons."
When I saw this I thought you were accusing Chathamh of using semicolons. I thought that even though the semicolons weren't literally there in the material sense, you could still see them with your great brain. Confusing!
"Fuck you for saying it's worse for you to be called a cunt because you're a woman."
Are you British? Here in my country, the United States, "cunt" is a term of opprobrium reserved for women. Perhaps you didn't know that. Could it be that this little tiff is nothing but a misunderstanding?
Though I don't agree with squelching people who disagree with me, I do believe in squelching people who will never acknowledge a sound argument or change their minds. The former is closing your ears to things you don't like, and I don't do it; the latter is pragmatism.
ReplyDeleteI don't know you, Ashur, but if you are someone who will never change your mind, then Holly did right to squelch you. It would have been better, though, for her to be less abrupt about it.
The issue here boils down to one of faith: if someone believes in something emotionally, without proof, critical engagement, rationality, or willingness to acknowledge alternatives, then they are ultimately beyond the reach of argument. On a purely private, personal level, this is fine: it is your privilege to believe what you believe. But when people start using their beliefs as justification for saying and doing things that interfere with the lives of others, those who are acting on faith become obstacles to be dealt with.
It's kind of neat to imagine that this blog is being electronically dictated by someone with a moderate strength strain of Tourette Syndrome.
ReplyDeleteAnd by "imagine", I mean "be 75% sure sure that".
"The issue here boils down to one of faith: if someone believes in something emotionally, without proof, critical engagement, rationality, or willingness to acknowledge alternatives",
ReplyDeleteThey block opposing viewpoints.
"Are you British? Here in my country, the United States, "cunt" is a term of opprobrium reserved for women."
I MUST SAY ANYTHING OH MY GOD PLEASE NOTICE ME HOLLY PLEASE I MUST LIE TO MAKE HER LIKE ME.
You know what two faced idiots are? Cunts.
You know what people who insist that they could only be getting called a name because they're a woman are?
That's right. Cunts.
It must be very sad to have never gotten laid, but this is an odd way to inform the internet of such.
ReplyDeleteIt must be very sad to have never gotten laid, but this is an odd way to inform the internet of such.
ReplyDeleteIn my experience it's actually the most common way. Or did you mean "odd" as in nonsensical? Because I'd agree there. He might as well scream "I'M BITTER BECAUSE I'M A VIRGIN! WATCH AS I DEMONSTRATE BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT WHY NO WOMAN (OR MAN, FOR THAT MATTER) COULD EVER LIKE OR RESPECT ME!"
Ahh, last two anonymous' before this comment; I see Holly's "Nice Guy" fanbase who cannot read anything without relating it back to sex has decided to make an appearance.
ReplyDeleteIn my experience it's actually the most common way. Or did you mean "odd" as in nonsensical? Because I'd agree there. He might as well scream "I'M BITTER BECAUSE I'M A VIRGIN! WATCH AS I DEMONSTRATE BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT WHY NO WOMAN (OR MAN, FOR THAT MATTER) COULD EVER LIKE OR RESPECT ME!"
ReplyDeleteWriting an article could only be about the effect it has on women to you, couldn't it? Despite all the content your only pressing concern is with sex and whether or not women will approve.
No wonder you're so angry :P
lolz you're stupid.
ReplyDeleteThe internet. Serious motherfucking business lol
ReplyDeletelolz you're stupid.
ReplyDeleteCome at me bro.
"Isn't it funny how people who [...] accuse others of being idiots, dishonest and dumb usually turn out to be the ones who embody those traits more than anyone else?"
ReplyDelete*checks url*
I agree completely.
"I MUST SAY ANYTHING OH MY GOD PLEASE NOTICE ME HOLLY PLEASE I MUST LIE TO MAKE HER LIKE ME."
ReplyDeleteI was a puzzled by this sentence due to the relative paucity of semicolons, but I think I grasp your meaning now. No, it's true! I really am writing this from the U.S.A... the "Land of Liberty"... I'm sure a "chap" like you must be too modest to believe that you have garnered an international readership, but these things happen! It's a sign your blog has hit the big time.
Anyway, I think it's fascinating how words have different meanings here than they do "across the pond" where you live. For instance, did you know that in America, "suspenders" mean braces? "Glove box" is "glove compartment." "Fanny" means your bum (I don't have to tell YOU what a fanny is in Britain!), and to add to the confusion, a "bum" is a sort of hobo or tramp. "Two nations divided by a single language"! Although perhaps you're Australian... that would explain your predilection for salty language.
When I think of "cunt" being addressed to guys, it makes me think of drunken football hooligans in Irvine Welsh novels. "Whae's been after pissin' in me lager? Yeh cunts! I'm aboot tae clabber yer arses with me boot if yae doon't fuck off, ye bastards!" (That wasn't an actual quote -- I made up that Irving Welsh impression myself!)
Oh, I forgot to mention where I learned all this vocabulary information about different countries. I learned it from watching "Are You Being Served?"!
ReplyDeleteStill sore about the Nice Guy thing, eh Anonymous :P
ReplyDeleteThis blog is a hilarious echo-chamber of sheer douche. It's kind of adorable, actually!
ReplyDeleteYeesh, get a fucking life, Ashur. A life that doesn't consist solely of being a massive troll.
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